In an industry where the players and rules of the game are constantly changing, one extraterrestrial phenomenon has remained constant: the presence of Ellen Allien and the BPitch Control dynasty she created to reignite the revolutionary side of electronic music. What started as a way to keep the underground movement alive in Berlin during the ‘90s, BPitch Control has now become a home to a vast community of freedom-seekers, including the Seattle born/Brooklyn bred Camea.
Speaking to Pulse Radio’s Emma Li Salditt from the BPitch HQ in Berlin, we find out how BPitch was born, where it’s heading now and what family truly means to the crew. Ellen has also recorded this week’s Pulse podcast –listen here.
What are you guys up to today? Ellen Allien: We just got into the office, it’s raining today in Berlin. I had a meeting today about our booking future, new agents and things.
Camea: I was just finishing up the master of my set at Robot Heart at Burning Man to send out to those guys so they can release that soon.
When do you think that’s going to be? Camea: Well, they have it pretty lined up right now because there was like seven artists each night for seven days so I think it’ll probably be in December. It seems like they’re doing one a week.
Ellen: Wow, that’s a lot of music!
And it’s really good music too! I can’t stop listening to Thugfucker’s set at Robot Heart. Camea: Oh I know, it’s amazing! I was like, "Oh my God, I need every single one of these tracks!" It was a sensational mix for sure. They had a pretty strong opener and then they got deep.
So we recently got the chance to see you two play in Brooklyn for the BPitch Control showcase put on by Blkmarket. How did it feel playing back in Brooklyn, Camea? Camea: Oh it was great, always amazing, I had opening duties that day so I got to spend a lot of time with friends after. Even though I haven’t lived there for seven years, when I go back it still feels like home. I am so happy and its like the same amazing people are still there. I feel like when I go back it’s like no time has passed at all, it’s like coming home. I also love the chance to go record shopping while I’m there.
Do you two have any favorite record stores in Brooklyn? Ellen: Yeah, Rough Trade is great, they have a great collection of new records. I think on the second floor they also have concerts, no? Like rock concerts. But I order most of my records from web shops, like Clone, Hardwax, Decks, Juno, Boomkat. I like to have a look on Discogs to see what’s going on, but I have all the classics [laughs]. It’s fun, I love to see how the good old classics pop-up and then disappear and you can’t find anymore of the main hits from the past because the young people really want to have the old shit now, you know? And I love that, people get so nerdy about it, it’s the addiction of music.
Ellen, you originally started your BPitch label to express that there was still an emotional, creative side to electronic music, that it wasn’t all becoming commercial. You did this for yourself but you helped a create a movement in Berlin. How has BPitch allowed you to open this other dimension of electronic music? Ellen: I opened up the label because I couldn’t find any other label that wanted to bring out my music, or they started telling me how the music had to be. Back in the days, we had house labels, techno labels and nothing in between. They closed labels like SpaceTeddy, so I decided to open the label because the movement started getting a bit weird, a lot smaller. There was a big community of commercial techno, like very bad techno. Really really cheesy music.
On the other hand, the underground scene suffered because of the overground scene. The underground scene became smaller because people thought oh, we’re not special anymore - techno is over. Many clubs closed. I mean I was a kid, this was my church, my home and my future…..and then everything closed down. It was a big depression for everybody. I was really depressed.
I thought, 'Okay, I should stop DJing, I should do something else.' For years I worked in a platinum record shop and one guy, a friend, told me to open a label. He said, ‘You know everybody, you work in a record shop, you do a radio show, you’re such a big music lover, you have so much passion.’ So he helped me open my first label, Braincandy. I have to say I fucked it up, I didn’t know what I was doing. I lost a lot of money because I worked with the wrong distributor, he was more commercial and gave me bad advice - but it was mostly my mistake. But this is how it works, you fall and then you get up.
Then I started BPitch Control. I started opening my own BPitch Control parties with another guy, Bastian Krondorfer from the gay scene at SO36. We were mostly booking female DJ’s first and then we mixed it up, in very big locations, more alternative locations. Like Tacheles, Arena, SO36. We have great visuals, it was all pretty complicated actually, we rented everything. Then Bastian wanted to stop so I carried on alone with the BPitch Label. At these parties a lot of young people came and gave me demos, and then I found out that they were all searching for a home. There was a strong communication at that moment - a new movement that we were starting - the kids are doing it. It was the time to do it, they wanted to keep it alive. We were all living together, once the wall came down. It was a very new feeling for us.
I opened the BPitch label and we sold a lot very fast, like, 'bang!'. The Berlin hype started in America, France and Spain, so we started getting bookings. We worked with a booking agency and then I started my own booking agency because the old one we had didn’t want to work with bookers in other countries. We needed bookers in every country to help us, so I felt like I had to start fresh with BPitch Control. Now you have thousands of labels and booking agencies, you can choose as an artist. It is a professional industry now, which is a good time for artists. And also for us as DJ’s because we can really focus on the music. Now the times are better. Well, maybe not for record companies but they just have to find better solutions, contract wise. It’s all comes down to talking about new ideas.
Camea is for example one artist which I found like this. I asked her to come with us because I really respect what she did. Actually I followed her with her label, Clink Records. I always bought Clink Records at Hardwax. There was this one time at Hardwax I put a Clink Record on and I asked Pete, 'Who’s behind Clink Record actually? I like it so much, it’s much better than mine.' It was so elegant, even the artwork. And then I turn around and Camea was there!
Camea: Haha yeah, I was really funny that I was there! I think it was actually the second week I moved to Berlin, I had just gotten there and was like, 'I want to go to Hardwax!' It was such a big deal for me, I don’t think I’d been there before. I walk in and look up at the wall and there’s just this huge stack of Clink Records behind the counter! It was featured, I said, ‘Oh my God!’ And then there was this lady talking about Clink, and I thought, ‘Is that Ellen Allien?’ I was afraid of her [laughs] because she’s just like so powerful, you know? And she’s just like, “Oh hi, I’m Ellen,” and I’m like “Hiiiiii, yep that’s my record on the wall.” I pretty much ran out of there I was so scared. You were there with Margaret Dygas record shopping. It was really exciting for me.
Ellen: I was so happy to meet her! She was working with other people at that point and I asked her to join us and she said, 'Oh no! I just went with somebody else.' And then at one point we just came together. Its not easy, you know?
Camea: Yeah, just listening to what Ellen is saying makes me remember just how much we’ve gone through together to get to where we are. Like this struggle she was having…
Ellen: Haha and you too!
Camea: Yeah exactly, our struggles were very similar. Just like having to run a label and not knowing at all what you’re doing. Trying to switch from an artist to a business person and understand how that works. The whole entire game of promoting a record comes into it too, and this is just stuff you don’t think about when you’re buying your first record and you’re thinking you just wanna play for your friends in a club. Next thing you know all of a sudden you’re faced with business decisions and all of these things. Same thing with agencies and everything, its just such a learning process. And everybody’s just paving the way as we go. Nobody knows where it’s going to end up, or turn out, or what the rules are. So very slowly you’re trying to get to this place where everything is running smoothly. I mean Ellen, you started DJing how many years ago?
Ellen: I started DJing in ‘94.
Camea: Yeah, I started in ‘99. It’s been a long, long time trying to get it right.
Ellen: It took a very long time to get everything settled, but now the times are different, we have so many more DJ’s. We get so many demos now, because so many labels are just closing, they don’t take anyone new anymore because they can’t sell them. So people are just searching for a home again. People are struggling to get their music out and actually have people listen to it.
Camea: Yeah, so much good music gets ignored these days.
Ellen: Because there’s so much good music out there these days, I can find so many good tracks.
Going off this current conversation, where do you guys see BPitch in 5-10 years from now? Ellen: Mm good question. I mean the question is how do we grow. It can maybe one day become a club? I mean I will always work with music and would love to always work with people. Like running the business, with artists we can exchange ideas and music and emotions through music - that’s very important. And it will be there until I’m dying. How, I don’t know but it could be many things. Maybe a gallery, a meeting point or a bar? We’ll see how everything goes, I can’t decide that. The people have to decide. I just follow the people in the way that makes them happy, and I am okay with that. Let’s see.
We also want to find out more about your new EPs. Camea your last one was 'Neverwhere'? Camea: Yeah and then I did a remix project with that one, which was vinyl only. We did some videos with it too, which was really cool. Right now I’m actually finishing up my next one. I’ve been working on it for quite a while and was just in an engineer studio last week getting everything sounding good. I’m really close to being finished, it should be out in the next months I’m sure!
Ellen: Yeah, it’s a very nice one!
Camea: It’s very trippy. Burning Man inspired. I got out there and let my mind wander a little bit and got a lot of inspiration out there. Just listening to such great music and looking at all the different art that people had brought.
Was it your first time at Burning Man? Camea: We’ll I had been there a long time ago, 2003 I think? So a long time ago. I am a much different person now from when I was a kid and went. It was basically my first time all over again.
Ellen, have you been to Burning Man? Ellen: No and I don’t think I’m so interested. It’s because I don’t like dust [laughs]. I think I would love it, with Camea there and many of my friends, and all the craziness. Also, during the summer I am based in Ibiza, I have my residency there. I am living there and I play so much in Europe. For me to get there, it wouldn’t be easy. And with all the dust...
Camea: Yeah I can say, the dust was the worst part of the experience with me. The first few days everybody is keeping clean in the RV, but then you just get to that point where nobody cares anymore. But still, it’s totally worth it. In the end actually I think the best part is that you realize that it’s not about your friends, it not about the music, it’s not about anything except your personal experience. When you get to disconnect for all of it and you just GO.
I played three nights, and then I had a free night and my boyfriend and I just took our bikes out, we decorated them crazy with lights and decorations and we just rode out in the Playa in the middle of the night. I just got lost looking at all the art installations. We met strangers and had great conversations with people, and that’s really when you just disconnect from everything that you know and love and you just totally go out there into the unknown.
Ellen, we love your vocals in your newest EP, 'Freak'. Ellen: They are so weird! It was so much fun to make. I was like freaking out, screaming and jumping in front of the mic. Freak came out in September I believe. There are now remixes coming out actually! There was one guy, a great American producer that loved the ‘Free Nation’ track so much that he did a great ‘Free Nation’ remix! And then he asked if he could make a Freak Remix, just for fun. Now we have two remixes from him, so I asked two friends of mine in Detroit (AUX88) to do a remix, and they did a great ‘Butterfly’ remix.
Radioslave is also doing a remix, so now we have a whole remix collection. It wasn’t planned, it just fell into place, which was great. Now I am working on a bonus track for that, too. BPitch is also coming out with some new artists, like Jesse Perez from Miami, I’m a big fan of his, he’s a bomb! And Ejeca, the house project from the UK. I’ve played Ejeca tracks in my set for two years now, and it’s always the best track in my set, thank you Mr. Ejeca! So we have one brilliant release from Ejeca coming out.
We would actually like to bring out less music. This is the plan for 2015, but it’s not so easy. Many people are searching for labels and they jump from label to label so we have to come up with an idea of how we want to carry on for the next two years. We are not able to bring out too much, like medium releases. We are trying to fit a lot now and it’s not so easy for all of the artists, a lot gets lost.
Ellen tell us a little bit more about your summer in Ibiza. What were some highlights for you? Ellen: Oh man, there are so many stories. The highlight is always on Mondays, because Mondays are CircoLoco parties at DC10. Those Mondays are amazing, I drink a lot [laughs]. I am surrounded by amazing artists and friends, all having so much fun together, and listening to the best music and the best DJ sets ever. Every DJ is playing one and a half hours and everyone that comes to Ibiza is in a good mood, you know. There’s a big back stage where all the promoters are and many interesting people are back there to talk to. If you want to dance you can just go to the dance floor. I love to find Spanish people in the crowd actually, not just hang out with DJ’s from the UK, Germany and France. It’s nice not to only talk to the DJ’s, too. The Spanish fans make the island very nice for me. I go to Ibiza not to promote my business or anything, I just go to bring my energy. I’m not interested to do any business over there, this island is a getaway for me. My sister lives there and my nephew grew up there, so it’s a bit of a family affair. For me Ibiza is more an emotional experience than a business working tool. My boyfriend is actually working for Circoloco in Ibiza, we met during my residency there. So Ibiza is like a love story for me, it’s like a home for us.
We have one more question for you two. If you guys had one day left on Earth, what tracks would you just have to listen to? Ellen: For me it would be Bjork. Everything on her debut album, it’s the best one of her’s. It’s amazing, I still play it in clubs. For me she brings the emotions of the future of women in music, our freaky-ness or whatever.
Camea: Oh my God, I don’t know honestly. That is such a hard question! Honestly, knowing me, I’m such a sappy, emotional person, I would probably put on some classical music. Like listen to some Vivaldi, Four Seasons or something. Just emo my way out of this world. I love listening to DJ mixes a lot at home, but if I just need to shut that all off, I’m always listening to classical music, or reggae. Reggae would be my second choice, I would sit back and bob and weave my way out of this life, until it’s all over.
Ellen: Yeah, I could do reggae too. You know, smoke a spliff and say ‘Ciao, world.’ Knowing us though, we would come back to rule the world, anyway.
Ellen Allien Tour Dates
14.11.2014 ES / Barcelona / Camea, Ellen Allien, Kiki - BPC Showcase @ Nitsa
15.11.2014 IT / Bergamo / Aérea Negrot, Ellen Allien - BPC Showcase @ Bolgia
21.11.2014 DE / Offenbach / Ellen Allien, Kiki - BPC Showcase @ Robert Johnson
22.11.2014 CH / Zürich / Camea, Ellen Allien, Kiki - BPC Showcase @ Hive
28.11.2014 HU / Budapest / Ellen Allien @ Akvarium
29.11.2014 UK / Birmingham / Ellen Allien @ The Rainbow Warehouse
05.12.2014 AU / Monkerai / Ellen Allien , Garry Todd @ Riverwood Downs
06.12.2014 AU / Sydney / Ellen Allien @ Subsonic Festival
12.12.2014 JP / Osaka / Ellen Allien @ Circus
13.12.2014 JP / Tokyo / Ellen Allien @ Galaxy
19.12.2014 BE / Antwerp / Ellen Allien @ Café d'Anvers
20.12.2014 IT / Florence / Ellen Allien @ Tenax
27.12.2014 UK / London / Ellen Allien @ Koko
31.12.2014 IT / Bologna / Ellen Allien, Shinedoe - BPitch Control Showcase @ Link
01.01.2015 IT / Naples / Ellen Allien @ Duel Beat
02.01.2015 DE / Berlin / Ellen Allien - BPC Showcase @ Watergate
03.01.2015 ES / Madrid / Ellen Allien @ Mondo
09.01.2015 MX / Playa del Carmen / Ellen Allien / DJ QU / Camea - BPC Showcase @ BPM
16.01.2015 ES / Ibiza / Ellen Allien / Circoloco @ DC10
Camea Tour Dates
14.11.2014 ES / Barcelona / Camea, Ellen Allien, Kiki - BPC Showcase @ Nitsa
22.11.2014 CH / Zürich / Camea, Ellen Allien, Kiki - BPC Showcase @ Hive
19.12.2014 CH / Lausanne / Camea @ La Ruche
20.12.2014 DE / Berlin / Camea - Mint @ Bi Nuu
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