Getting his start with The Youngsters, producing techno on Laurent Garnier’s F Communications imprint, Frenchman Rodriguez Jr. has gone on to become a core member of Anja Schneider’s mobilee family. With the recent release of the brilliant ‘Persistence of Vision,’ we caught up with Rodriguez Jr. over Skype whilst he was taking a break in the south of France. Our chat took us from Jean Michel Jarre, Detroit techno, his upcoming album, illustrating his way through music production, and his affinity with analogue hardware.
I was wondering about your early listening habits. Basically, as a French guy, everything began in the ‘80s when I was listening to Jean Michel Jarre and electronic pop music. Then I discovered a lot of people of my generation like Inner City, Kevin Saunderson; this music from Detroit and from Chicago on the radio. My first contact with dance music was Detroit. Derrick May, Underground Resistance, Saunderson – all these guys. It was like a revolution for me.
Then did it come to attending parties and experiencing the music in a different way? I began lately, actually. My first contact with electronic music was on the radio and then I began producing, but my first parties were parties were maybe in something like ’97. I wasn’t that kind of guy, going out a lot. We had quite an interesting scene in the South of France at this time and a lot of raves in unexpected places. It was very interesting and very forward-thinking.
Your work with The Youngsters, how did that shape what you’ve come to do now? Obviously the music is quite different. Yes, it was very different. Everything began with The Youngsters maybe in ’98. I was studying Mathematics in Montpellier and I was producing music with a couple of synthesisers and a computer in my bedroom. I needed to meet people to get into this business and to get into this network. I met Gilles who has been my partner in crime for almost 10 years with The Youngsters. He used to have a little label called G-Funk and also a record shop in Montpellier. We had the same passion for this techno from Detroit. This is why our tracks were so techno and punchy. We eventually met Laurent Garnier who signed us on his label F Communication and it was the beginning of a beautiful and long adventure.
When it came to producing on your own, what changed things? Basically when you produce in a band you have to compromise a lot. At some point I really wanted to do my own stuff and tried to find my own influences. I tried to experiment with my own things. F Communication was also experiencing a lot of problems with all these changes in the music business market. The label actually collapsed in 2006 or 2007, I think. I needed to do something else. Sometimes you just need a change in your life and everything happened at the same time.
You’ve played piano from a young age and you’ve talked about how you were mainly in the studio – has that influenced you into focusing on production more than DJing? You play live a lot as well. It definitely does, even though I’m not a great player. Particularly when you’re in the studio when you want build a track or shape an idea, it’s much faster when you have these skills. It’s the same thing for live. I’m very happy that I can perform and play this kind of music live. Regarding the melodies, that’s maybe more related to my influences. As I told you before I was a huge fan of Jean Michel Jarre, Kraftwerk and later the techno of Detroit. Which is also not so melodic, but moody, you know? It’s all related to my influences and my music taste. And I’m French, that’s also a good reason!
When you play live, how do you actually set-up? Yeah, it’s quite a compact set-up. I’ve got a laptop running Ableton Live, I’ve got Maschine, which I use as a controller, I’ve got an iPad which I also use as a controller with my own template on some great software called Touch OSC. I have a MIDI keyboard to play, to improvise, to launch things. Actually the set-up is quite compact and basic, but I prefer to have something that I can interact a lot with, depending on the feedback that the crowd give me. I think that’s much more important than having loads of shit around me and getting lost in it.
Yet in the studio you have a lot of hardware – what’s your relationship with that kind of equipment? Do you think it’s more creative or adds more musicianship? In the ‘90s I began to produce with machines and I need the machines to generate ideas and accidents. When you work with modular synths for instance, there are a lot of accidents and unexpected things, which can be very interesting. I really need this physical connection with the instrument you know. That’s so much more inspiring, that physical connection in the sound. I definitely need it and that’s why I use so much hardware.
Do you think the quality of the music is greater because you’ve spent more time trying to create sounds? Maybe there’s more time experimenting. It definitely pushes things forward for sure. For me, the most interesting is the accident I talked to you about. There aren’t so many accidents with software and plug-ins. When it happens you can reboot! With machines you have a lot of shit. It’s electricity. This is why I really look forward to it in the studio – working with the modular synths, the Moog or the Jupiter – trying to push things forward a lot and trying to generate these accidents.
When you were younger and starting work with hardware – I know your influences were things like Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream – was there an element of trying to channel those sounds that you were hearing or recreating those sounds? Of course, those were the first steps – you try to recreate, you try to copy. They were definitely my first attempts to produce electronic music – trying to produce covers of Kraftwerk. I think with the techno it was the same, I tried to copy only the beats from Underground Resistance, all these guys, trying to get the funk. And then you do your own shit with it.
How do you see your productions progressing? I don’t know! Whilst travelling I’m always collecting ideas and looking to experiment. I would love to work with musicians, maybe singers or trying to make new fusions. I think dance music is all about new fusions and experiments. I still think there are lots of things to experiment and discover. I don’t know where I’m going to go now – just hanging out in the studio, experimenting again and again.
Do you have any releases coming up? I have some remixes coming up I think. I’ve just released ‘Persistence Of Vision’ on mobilee in June. I’m just beginning to work on a new album for mobilee as well, which is going to take a lot of my time probably.
Is there a concept? How do you go about writing a whole album? It’s a long process. Basically I collect ideas, and I try to have a whole overview of what I want to do otherwise you get lost in this process. So I try to have an idea and an overview of what I want to do then I draw it on paper, what I want to do. Then I try to fill the blanks. It’s a very passionate process, but that’s how I do it.
It’s interesting you need that visual element. Yeah, I need the representation. So I’ll start with a certain mood, then build up with something more for the dance floor, then something more hypnotic. I just try to follow this line.
With an album in dance music you have to go in different directions – is it difficult? It is. You have two options. You can do more dance floor tracks, but then it’s like a compilation. Otherwise you try to open things up a little bit and take risks. That’s what I try to do usually. That’s not always easy though because if you produce only ambient tracks, the people don’t get it. It’s all about reaching the good balance.
You’ve played the mobilee pool party back in July – what do you make of it? That’s difficult because we are trying to build the brand on the island. This is something we want to push forward as it’s just a great configuration for performing our music. We try to build up to create this brand and to create this concept on the island. It’s free, which makes quite a big difference in Ibiza and we’re trying to propose something other than the big clubs.
Rodriguez Jr. plays Mobilee Rooftop party in Barcelona at Hotel Diagonal on Thursday 11th September. Click here for more info. His ‘Persistence of Vision’ EP is out now on mobilee. You can buy it here. He is also touring Australia this month - dates below.
Rodriguez Jr. Australian Tour Dates
19.09.14 - Geisha Bar, Perth
20.09.14 - New Guernica, Melbourne
21.09.14 - S*A*S*H Sleepout, Sydney
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